This spin is straight out of Alfonse D'amato's repugnant editorial.

If Mangano was serious about tax payers saving tax dollars, take on the school taxes. I know the CE does not have any influence but maybe if just one representative speaks out the rest will follow and landslide them with pressure........but I'm dreaming right ? they would never go against the hands that feed them. You all know or at least you should that school related unions dump cash in the pockets of our reps.

ON PAPER this plan sounds viable and quite frankly reasonable, he is basically a restructuring and re assigning "desk:" jobs back out on the street,keeping the current levels locally, which in and of itself is not a bad thing.
HOWEVER- when it comes to consolidation of clerical work and reassignment of duties for officers, you need to know HOW this is going to work. THAT he hasnt explained adequately. Who will be doing the current local precint paperwork and other duties currently assigned to the incumbent officers? How is this plan reducing overtime? Conversly I think i read somewhere that the closed precints will have two officers each, maybe i read this wrong but that sounds like a BIG underuse of the buildings and facilities.
Plus two people 24/7 means more then two people assigned to inhouse duties for coverage 24/7 365 - which brings us right back to why doesnt he just insure,mandate, RULE, and limit and downGRADE current PD clerical positions to only TWO people per current location, for in house responsibilities and leave everything status quo.
Like on said ON PAPER this sounds viable . when thought about in a logical manner it sounds like downsizing done wrong- Are or is there excessive overtime -probably , but closing local precints may not be the answer, accountbaility by the precint commanders who MANAGE the precint might be something they want to look at first.

Smoke & Mirrors!! You can make statistics say anything. It just how you manipulate the numbers. Funny that when the Democrat's are in office they blame the unions for supporting the Republican's. When the Republican's are in office they blame the union support for the Democrats. The unions support the elected officials that have the safety and security of Nassau County in their hearts. If the "true" precincts are reduced by 4 most of that support staff will have to be moved from the "community policing" buildings to the working precincts. There is no consideration of the case load generated by the precincts being closed. There is also no consideration given for the extra distance post cars will need to travel for arrest processing and returning back to their posts. This reduces the constant and regular patrol of your specific area. Calls would be handled by the next closest patrol car but after the call is handled, they will return back to their regular patrol area. Mark my words, at the end of the calendar year following the closures, the savings will be no way near that 20 million dollar figure. Take time to truly figure out ways to save money incorporating all facets of county government. Don't use the political arena to make snap judgement s at the expense of the great citizens of Nassau County.

Maragos doesn't want to audit Special Districts that waste millions of taxpayer dollars, but audits a the Nassau County Police Dept petty cash fund. I think Maragos is being petty. Yes, the proper use of a petty cash fund is important, but so is exposing the wasteful practices of the Special Districts. Maragos needs to stop playing politics and focus on the significant waste in taxpayer money.

Mangano should not be accusing Democrats of "fear mongering." His misleading sentence about raising our taxes by 19% makes it sounds that this alleged savings from cutting the police will save us 19% of our taxes. He knows that by saying that, not only in the letter, but in a 30-second robo-call, all people will think of is that if Mangano doesn't cut the police force, our taxes will go up 19%. THAT is fear mongering! Whether this plan is good or bad will be determined when we hear what the proposal is. I don't believe the numbers, mainly because Mangano's fuzzy math has never been real yet. All the savings promised by his lay-offs wound up with half the savings that he claimed there would be and sometimes wound up even costing us more money when you included the incentives. The real deception here is that in order to facilitate the changes that Mangano needs to make to the 8 precincts, it will cost us taxpayers a lot more than $20 million. If Mangano wants to be honest with the public, show us those numbers!

Lorraine I have to say I totally agree with you! " ON PAPER this sounds viable . when thought about in a logical manner it sounds like downsizing done wrong- Are or is there excessive overtime -probably , but closing local precints may not be the answer, accountbaility by the precint commanders who MANAGE the precint might be something they want to look at first.". Closing the Pct's does look like the answer but if people really knew the in's and out's of the Pct's functions they would be against this plan.

thanks Patch for showing us both sides of this important issue........excellent
reporting!

It is as clear a bell the police are on a work slow down.In mineola the monthly average of moving violations have been cut in half.Their output was already lacking now there is much less of it.

Setting a Quota on how many tickets a Police Officer must right is illegal.

MANGANO is correct. The time has come to slay the sacred cow- NCPD salaries and retirement packages. For years they have all bragged about it so the time has come end it. WE as a poor county can no longer afford this act.
I support our Police- just wont be held hostage by them or be scared to paying them 200K a year to drive around Wantagh. Sorry boys. The gig is up.
Mr Mangano keep up the honest direct approach!!!!

Right but you support the police. What does someone who puts their life on the line, works holidays, overnights, deals with sick people, and attacks by you deserve? 50,000? Do you realize cops pay taxes too? The police tax isn't even close to the school tax. How do you want cops to live on LI if they can't afford to? Oh I guess they don't have a right to a decent home for their family. Why are the police your enemy? Be mad at the govt. they should've paid into the pension system years ago when there was a surplus but choose to blow all of the money. Now there is no money left so they want to take it out on the police. The govt choose poor spending practices. They are to blame. Either get educated or take the police test since they have it SO good.

Fed up . The Police Unions negotiated a fair contract for both sides , the current contract expires in 2015 . Your boy Ed Mangano approved this contract when he was a legislator.

Dear Bob &Jim 50 tickets in a month is hardly a quota.No put down your I Pad and give out some tickets.P S $50,000 my eye

Eddie, I was asking what they deserve. I wasnt saying they make 50,000. Wow. Little reading comp maybe? Another guy who can't pass a civil service test and is bitter. Ha. I'm not a cop by the way.

Telling a police officer they have to write any amount of tickets a month is a quota. I'm sure you would be the first to complain about getting a ticket, especially when you see the outrageous surcharge the county puts on these fines.

You can see there are plenty of anti police comments on these posts. They usually have a hard time sticking to the subject. When they can't add an intelligent comment they will attack the police officers with false comments. The police officers are aware of the haters it comes with the job they do . Enforcing laws by giving tickets and making arrests you sure won't have a big fan base.

http://www.youtube.com/user/NassauPBATV

Watch a few of videos on you tube of the last County meeting and educate yourself on this important topic. Remember Ed Mangano said the Pct's are for picking up accident reports . Listen to the Detectives president he's worked all 8 Pct's he clearly knows the functions of the Pct's and explains it well. It's clear this is a bad decision .

Breaking News: Mangano caught lying about precinct closing savings. Non-partisan Legislature Budget Review finds only $12million in savings, not $20million. Mangano has been overstating savings since he barely won the election.
Never forget, Mangano lies and is ruining Nassau County. The same savings can be found in cutting outside contracts to politically connected firms. The legislature just approved ANOTHER $2million for Mangano cronies for work in-house attorneys could be doing.

you know what's funny.....the last line of this article. Is a dog run sooooo important when numbers are being crunched and people are loosing jobs? doesn't seem like a priority to me. (an yes i adore animals but mine run in my back yard without a problem.

I attended the meeting at Division Avenue High School a couple of weeks ago where the topic of precinct closings was discussed. I think it was a shame that most of the facts that were given were either incorrect or not really facts at all, just wishful thinking. To start off, the Commanding Officer of the 8th Precinct stated that burglaries were down in his precinct. A simple check of the Nassau County Police Department's website shows that Residential Burglaries have increased 128.57% from the same time period of last year (12/28/10-1/24/11 as to 12/27/11 -1/23/12). Moving on to the presentation by Commissioner Krumpter on the proposal to close 4 Precincts including the 8th precinct. Krumpter stated that due to contractual restraints 39 police officers per precinct had to be assigned to desk duty. And by closing 4 precincts, 156 positions would be eliminated with 48 officers being reassigned to POP policing and the other positions phased out through attrition. By his own admission, approximately 100 police officers a year retire, and there has not been any hiring's by the department since 2008. Based on statistics provided by Krumpter, each working police officer is worth roughly $200,000 a year with benefits, if this is the case, then since 2008, the savings from the Police Department's attrition should have totaled 60 million dollars.

Not so fast. The Patrolman's Benevolent Association's contract calls for minimum manning. Sector cars and other positions that are vacant due to injured, sick or vacationing officers are backfilled with others on overtime, quickly negating any savings from attrition. But let's get back to the case of the 8th precinct. Krumpter stated that the physical building will remain open. It is apparent, they are not quite sure what to call it, at times it was called a community center, a community policing center at other times, a sub-station to be open 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, to take complaints and accident reports. These centers supposedly will be manned by POP officers and officers on limited duty. This is all a pipe dream. Let's take a for instance, if the area currently known as the 8th precinct goes from 1 POP officer to 7, realistically, with vacations, court appearances, training, days off, sick and other reasons, that might turn out to be 1 additional police officer on duty at a time for the entire precinct and someone has to man the community center.

Don’t count on officers who are limited, some of which cannot carry firearms which means the union will not allow them to be in uniform, and alone ( I don’t blame them on this one). Other problems that arise from the closing of the precinct is the increase in down time for arresting officers, who instead of transporting their prisoner to the 8th precinct will now have to transport them to Woodbury. Add to that, the workload in processing double the amount of prisoners in the 2nd precinct, will just add to more time the sector will be out of service. The savings of $20 million is a paper savings, coupled with a political win for County Executive Mangano, who can now say he stood up to the PBA. For you, the residents of Levittown who would now have to travel to Woodbury to speak to a detective and to all the residents of Nassau who will still foot the bill for keeping 4 former precincts open for window dressing is all you are going to get out of this.

One other thing left out of this plan is the Detective squads. Each precinct has a Detective squad. Does this mean the investigative part of this Police Department will be cut in half? Are the squads going to be doubled in the remaining 4 precincts?

Brigitte

My reason for bringing up School Taxes is that Mangano and all of our so called representatives are not working on fixing the bigger problem and instead are tinkering with our safety. Fix the bigger problem first, then maybe we can pay a little more to fix our county. Do you understand now. Mangano is just chasing his tail, not going to fix any problem that way but will more likely cause more. When I hear the jerk talk about do this or 19% increase, it says to me, next year he is going to raise it 10% and say it's better than 19%. Do you want to pay 19% along with absurd school taxes ?

I have to laugh about the comment on "Dog Runs" of which by the way i totaly agree. IF you have a dog does not mean i as a Taxpayer have to PAY for it to have an area of a PARK. Get a doggy door for your backyard like i have for my two dogs. Allow dogs access to Parks and fine owners for doggy "deposits" . How this relates ot the current topic is simple- Less concern for four legged play time and more concern for the people who protect this county.. I have two dogs, my babies, NEVER have I taken them to dog run to socialize either on the canine level or on the human level. I Play with my dogs in the backyard or on walks.. PLease lets put some priorities on WHATS important .. PEOPLE are important and protecting them . This should take precedent over DOGGY park play areas. someone has a few screws looses in the county ... doggy run for $2 million which is an actual and a propsed CUT of 20 million for this NCPD restructuring which is a pipedream. hm.. private sector would eat these people alive for their idiocy. Take a stab at patronage first! reduce eliminate all those jobs and then if needed look at where else you can reduce redundancies ineffective and poorly managed areas. Are pensions a BIG factor YES. so bite the bullet unions and work a new plan with the county for NEW HIRES that is more cost effective but which also protects the rights of the people who are currently employed.

Please take a minute to sign this petition against precinct closures.  It will be delivered to the Nassau Legislature. http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/defeat-the-plan-to-eliminate-four-precincts-in-nassau-county/

Nassau County can no longer afford to have the highest paid police department in the state or nation. IT AS SIMPLE as that. No one is anti police here. They do a great job and work where and when others do not. Everyone knows that when we were fat in the wallet Tommy Gullota let them run away with salaries, now we need to rein things in. I dont see this a personal- Business . The PBA has a job to do and is not gonna roll. Let them suck it up.
Ed Mangano has a tough job and he is on the correct path.
NYC never gave the store away to its workers and is a financial sound place. Nassau County has become a mess. Time to fix our own house folks.

I couldn't have said it better myself, Realistic Tax Payer. You're absolutely right. Gullota basically opened the county treasury to the PBA by walking away from the table on numerous occasions during contract negotiations. The PBA would then take it to binding arbitration and win by default. Now, many years later, this is where the county is at. It's not the PBA's fault that this happened. It's the fault of the politicians that were elected and reelected time after time after time. They're the ones who were fiscally irresponsible and the reason the County is in such bad shape today.

Exactly. No one is anty police but older people are being forced out of their homes.Savings on all levels are needed. Of corse the police officers who respond are defenseive,it is human nature.The truth is the truth something needs to be done.you see some hi ranking officers leavening with tremendous amounts of money when others are having to move down south because they cannot afford the taxes.

Tom and Realistic tax payer before you start throwing out false statements get your facts straight. First of all Nassau County Police Officers are not the highest paid in the state of NY or the nation . There are many departments that make more than Nassau County Police Officers. Binding arbitration is there for a reason. Police officers can not strike due the the Taylor Law. Nassau County Police Officers have never won a contract by default . When the County and the PBA can not come to an agreement it goes to binding arbitration. An arbitrator hears both sides and comes up with a fair contract for both sides.

In the past few years the PBA has opened their contract to help save the county money , which they did not have to due . The PBA and the county were able to find savings for the county and the Legislator approved it even Ed Mangano. The current contract expires in 2015 and yet again the PBA is willing to sit down with the County Executive to find savings. But Ed Mangano refuses to negotiate its his way or nothing. A foolish decision by him when these contracts don't expire for years. He should sit down with the PBA and come up with additional savings. Some of the public likes to bash the unions but if you look at the facts they are willing to help.

ROBERT- we all can assume what union you belong to.
I love cops. My dad was a NYPD Sergeant and my own brother is a NCPD Detective. The private sector respects POs for willing to give up their lives to protect us all.
Now- as far as salaries and benefits go you, and other members of your union should just stay relaxed and quiet while the rest of the working world suffers. I know all about the banked sick days and OT build up for pension purposes. Twenty year pensions will go the way of the doody bird as well. Changes have to be made to assure a future for Nassau County and our children. READ LAST LINE AGAIN.

Those Democratic leaders who accepted 650K in PBA donations are hypocrites at best. And in the future, as in other professions, if people donot believe the compensation package is adequate they will pursue other avenues of livelihood.
PS - My own family members in law enforcement thing the PBA President comes across rather unprofessional and thuggish. Just the truth here.

For whatever it's worth, I have now come to a number of conclusions as to what is going to happen relative to Mangano's proposal. Some of these are points we could probably all generally agree on; some we could probably debate forever. Here goes:

Conclusion #1: Mangano's proposal would save some money - probably not as much as he is advertising but certainly something greater than zero.

Conclusion #2: His proposal wouldn't actually have a material impact on crime one way or another. I recognize that there is loads of room for debate on that one, so call this my view only, but it's based on the premise that the police in Nassau County patrol in cars, not buildings.

Conclusion #3: We do pay a lot in Nassau County for police services. As I noted elsewhere, over 60% of my Nassau County Property tax bill went to police services. If you paid a lower percentage, perhaps you are doing better than me. Any way you slice it however, that's a lot of money.

Conclusion #4: Neither Conclusion #3 or Conclusion #2 matter much at this point because Mangano's proposals has elicted such a hysterical response, inspired in part by those seeking to secure political gain, that its chances of being implemented are now somewhere between zero and nil. All of which leads me to ...

Conclusion #5: Which is that when it comes to high taxes, Pogo was actually right when he said, "We have met the enemy and he is us."

I will ask someone other then James if I wrote anything anti police. I will repeat the main thrust of my point which is this- Changes have to made to the compensation given to NCPD in order to secure financial stability to Nassau County so their is a Nassau County left for any ones kids. (Mine both left because they could not afford 600K homes). But thats another story for us all......Now James Im the son of a old retired Sergeant who worked "around the clock" in Brownsville Bklyn and Jamaica for 25 yrs..AND the brother of a NCPD 22 yr Detective. An educated man might say two very different jobs- my own brother acknowledges that. NYPD people do not retire with 400K-750K retirement packages like a Wall Street CEO. My dad had a great line about being a cop-"They pay you to do what other people fear doing". I completely agree. I chose to be a lawyer. I have another sister whose a teacher. My brother wanted to be a cop. My parents are proud of us all. YOU need to not let this all be personal. The taxpayers are Q U I T E fed up around here.
The winds of change are sweeping through, Id hold onto my hat.

Realistic ??? Did you read the topic of discussion ? Ed Mangano wants to close 4 of the 8 Pct's . It's not a discussion on Police Officer salaries or compensation. All of which were fairly negotiated . If your brother really is NCPD detective I'm sure he can explain to you the 8 pcts are needed. The work load of the detective squad alone is reason to keep the Pct's open. Over 10,000 complainant reports taken in Nassau last year over 3,000 investigated by detectives. Thats detectives conducting interviews of possibly subjects, victims of crimes and witnesses. Detectives and cops process arrests and that's done in station houses not patrol cars. To jam the work loads of 2 Pct's into one will not work . These station houses can not handle it because of there size. You come off very anti police because instead of talking about the topic of closing Pct's, you would rather bash police officer salaries. Your quote The winds of change I had to laugh.

I am not sure I fully understand the answer to the closure of precincts or not personally because I do not think it has been fully vetted out and there are many unanswered questions. What I do understand is just because something "aint broke don't fix it" mentality is incorrect. We should hear the proposal and weigh it and research how it has been done in other communities to see if it works before dismissing it out right. From what I understand a similar proposal was made in the 1990s by many retiring administrative police officers in the county, but was not passed for whatever reason because its did not have bipartisan support from the county supervisors at the time. I do think it should be researched and looked into instead of saying no changes, no way and because I said it cannot work as the answer. We have to think outside the box. With regards to the overall financial issues the county faces over 60 percent of the budget in the county is dedicated to the headquarters and police tax, which is from salary and compensation. So obviously similar to the issue with the school district taxes where over 80 percent of those taxes are from teacher pay and compensation is being looked at and scrutinized. Should we be reevaluating pay and compensation? Absolutely because taxes are too high and the police and teachers are the main expenses and drivers of increasing both budgets. I think cops and teachers should get six figure salaries, the issue: we cannot afford to foot the bill.

Well said Merrick 7. I concur, oh I meant "10-4" James.
Police Officers and teachers hold two of society's most important jobs- teaching children and protecting us from the evil in the world. By discussing how the salaries and benefits need to be adjusted to secure our County's fiscal future we are not throwing out the baby with the bath water.
AND PS- I have never received a ticket for good reason.

Merrick7 has the right attitude for looking at these problems. Public employees are not enemies, they are good, honest hard-working people who provide essential services and should be appropriately compensated. "Appropriate" can only be defined by the bargaining process. If the employer makes a bad deal, then it is that employer's responsibility to address it constructively in the next round of bargaining. What we are seeing here is employers making bad deals who are now saying "oops give it all back overnight," like a child having a temper tantrum. That Mangano, who is part of the old-guard Nassau machine that ruined the county, claims to be anything but such a politician, casts instant doubt on his claims. The Dem's had their weak point no doubt, especially in the legislature, but as a group, they were guilty of being ineffective, not corrupt. Suozzi was effective but unbearably arrogant and deserved to lose as well. However, their replacements are just awful.

Scapegoating solves nothing other than creating hate for hates sake.

The TRUTH REALLY is....In order to change the status quo, Nassau Legislators must stand up to the Executive! Shame on him! Their choice is either let the NCP Chief cut delicately with a scapel or Ed "The Terminator" Mangano will carve with a chainsaw. Not much of choice, But if they stopped using motorcycle officers to deliver pizza to airports, maybe well have some less overtime expenditures. Oh yeah, and Mr Walker knows there are more holes in this plan than a lacrosse net.
Shame on them!

Bargaining is what Detroit to where it is today! Unions are conspiratorial in their group approach to ganging up on us, the public, as their employer. Let them individually negotiate their pay with their bosses as the private sector does and reward supervisors who keep costs to the minimum. The state legislature couild ban unions (as other states have done) and pit the no-srike claus in the Penal Law with mandatory sentances.

Dear Merrick 7
I was at 2 meetings so far . I attended them in person. I heard all they had to say...twice. I chose most of my words carefully. And the legislators will need to vote on this issue TODAY. They are behind a rock and a hard place. This is a no win situation, where YOU and me and the rest of the responders here will lose Big Time. And our only defense allowed by law is our words.

Merrick 7
The second meeting was at EM Public library on Tues nite 2/7. Hosted by Leg. Norma Gonsalves. Mr.Dale was previous engaged. Steven E. Skrynecki, the Nassau County Police Chief spoke for 1 1/2 hours and took intricate questions. Deputy County Executive in charge of Public Safety Dr. Victor Politi also spoke to residents in outlying the plan.. and we were told in no uncertain terms that.... "due to the fiscal crisis, we need to evolve. We need to cut delicately certain things like 100 positions thru incentives or Mr Mangano will have no choice to lay off officers from key positions, leaving us worse off". (their words not mine.) Hence the scapel/chainsaw comment. you might want to read the EM Patch article "Residents Voice Concerns with Community Policing Plan" ,By Jordan Lauterbach ( who will back up what I have stated) but you'll see the detailed colored grafix boards, pie charts, colored flow charts in the photo that was explained in great detail . Plus one officer in particular had a intricate data sheet.

A lof of people have expressed opposition to the Mangano plan, based on a concern that it would lead to additional crime. Indeed, at least a couple of our county legislators have staked out this position, in line with a view that crime is already bad in Nassau County and on its way up. Comments on this blog and elsewhere have made it clear that many people don't feel safe in their homes or on the street and Mangano's plan would only make things worse.

Yet, when it comes to the Nassau County Police Department, it's not as if we don't spend a fair chunk of change already. Indeed, as I've noted elsewhere, if you're like me, over 60% of your county property tax bill goes to the police department, a remarkable ratio given the full range of municipal services the county provides.

So I think it's fair to ask, is the police department giving us a fair return in terms of public safety, given that we spend so much and yet so many people feel so unsafe? And if the answer is they really are, do we then need to spend more? And if we do, how much more? Instead of 60+% of our property taxes, should it be 70%? 80%? More?

And what other part of the country budget should be reduced to pay for this additional police investment? Or should we simply raise taxes?

It's one thing for a private citizen to state their opposition, but public officials have an obligation to state what they are acutally for, in part by answering questions such as these.

62% is actually the national average on places that have similar demographics. But we need to cut waste. We need better record keeping for expenditures. We need a business manager that will cut unnecessary spending. Instead of having well paid , well meaning, well trained personnel handing out accident reports, working evidence lockers, doing finger prints and so on. Let's re-hire some of those laid off county workers to do the basic tasks and put our shilled and respected officers on the streets in our neighborhoods. The officers WANT to be there and we want them there too. Not standing on line in 1 of 4 precincts waiting and waiting to do prisoner intakes!

Sorry TYPO
I meant...... and put our SKILLED (not shilled ) and respected officers on the streets in our neighborhoods.

I must interject Bills comments to make a point here. The NCPD are not doing the best job at the same time. If you recall the recent scandal regarding the disabilities faked in the LIRR well actually a bigger scandal one of the largest of our time for a nation in the 1990s the Nassau PD were faking disability to do the very same thing until state and federal investigation. Also as you mention finger prints and evidence lockers bill do we forget the County PD were in charge of the now closed crime lab which is costing hundreds of thousands of dollars perhaps millions to redo at an outside location and remains shutdown for being corrupted. Also the biggest and most expensive lawsuits against the county over the past ten years based on judicial records has been the Nassau PD unions and former members. The cost of these lawsuits are passed on to residents in the form of taxes. I am not saying I do not respect the police but these are factual occurrences when weighing support for them.

All over todays news, a third NYC Cop shot this year alone. On their websites over 750 NYC Cops killed since 1863, Nassau county luckily hasnot suffered a cop shot by a criminal since 1975. James tell us about their salarys and retirement package as compared to yours? Please do. Oh the silence.................

Dear Off to work
you wrote "Nassau county luckily ha snot suffered a cop shot by a criminal since 1975."
You are so wrong my friend it is not funny.
The most recent and closest to home was an officer was shot
at East Meadow plaza on 12/30/11 read Patch article
http://eastmeadow.patch.com/articles/officer-shot-at-east-meadow-plaza
then before that an officer was shot
twice in Hempstead on 12/2/2011. look at http://www.wpix.com/wpix-hempstead-cop-shot,0,6842059.story
DUDE!!!????
Go to the Patch and type in "Officer Shot" in the inquiry and you will see it occurs about twice a month on average, that they report.

The problem is that there actually are residents that think the way "Off To Work' does and do not think that we are headed down this slippery slope to a roaring Avalanche of trouble. These terrible occurances heaped upon our law enforcement officers will increase exponentially if this plan goes through as proposed.. And no amount of salary or pension is worth even one of their lives.

sorry I had my facts wrong. I reviewed the official NCPD Website . Last officer shot and killed by a criminal was 1975 in West Hempstead. If you dispute this please look yourself. I apoligize James I wrongly assumed your a member of our local police due to your very supportive of their over the top retirement packages.
Our County is in deep fiscal crisis. Ed Mangano needs our support. 600K serverance packages for retiring police officers is adding to this. New York City retirements do not garnish hese salarys or retirement "Bye byes" - thats why city is rich and we are not. That was my point. James enjoy your YOU earned it the hard way Iam certain.

Actually I got a very nice bye bye package. I am very supportive of any police officer. I also don't think you can truly put a price on someone who is willing to lay down his life for you and your family. Forget about shootings, police do heroic acts every day in every town. You just don't hear about it. There are gun arrests everyday even in Nassau county that go perfectly smooth. You don't hear about it because nobody got the shot. Btw, Nassau cops work alone. Try doing a car stop alone at 4am on a car with blacked out windows. Every cop gets that pit in their stomach feeling while approaching. But they do it anyway. Dangers exist in ALL police jobs.

To Still at Work.....
apology accepted. That was very gentlemanly of you. But sometimes you gotta research multiple sites . (I saw one that says Elvis Presley is alive and a police officer in Albuquerque) LOL LOL
To James
I also don't think you can truly put a price on someone who is willing to put themselves in danger everyminute of the day to protect another person and their families.They have my undying respect, like Soldiers and Firemen too. And this plan will put added stress and work and danger on our law enforcement depts .

Sorry james
I meant to add you too have my gratitude for all that you have done as well. Enjoy your well deserved ....rest