Maybe some of you people better open up the history books and why we have unions in the first place or maybe watch a movie or two like Norma Rae or Silkwood or Blue Collar or Grapes of Wrath... shall i go on. We have the right to be in a union, and have a contract to protect us and the most recent contract was agreed on by the legislature... all was signed and legal, now they can take that away. It's like signing a contract that you own a house and then they take it away cause they don't believe you should have it... That's what this is like, they take that contract away i won't be living here anymore cause i can't afford the house i am living in and i won't be able to take care of my children and their health.

Private Sector does the same job for less which is why there is this movement to privatize vital services. The choice is simple tell your Union to roll back salaries or accept the upcoming layoffs with grace. All you are saying in the post is that it's the union way or nothing. The nothing is privatization and layoffs. Yes there is a reason for Unions and I don't disagree with them being necessary but the Union has gone too far in recent years by jacking up salaries way beyond non-union salaries to the tune of probably close to 2 times what a non-union person makes when you include all benefits. Now you have companies swooping in and offering the County a much cheaper method to run certain depts and the only ones that lose are the unions. If you want to survive the union contract needs to compete with private. It is arrogant of the Union to say the county can either accept the contract or we strike. The Union is under the assumption it holds all the cards but the disparity between the cost of running it within the county and outsourcing is so great it will be the Union that suffers. The Tax Payers want what makes sense not what the Union thinks they are entitled to.

Where does it say that?

It says that they came from across NY State!

Wait let me guess... you work for one of these unions?

Noname means most will take no interest in what you have to say!

Sandra, are you a Nassau County employee? Because you appear to be functionally illiterate. If you are a public emplyee, the public is getting ripped off every time you cash a paycheck.

Take a breath and edit what you have typed and repost. You are embarrassing yourself.

Seriously the venom is crazy this morning. Now here is my problem with your current statement. You call 911 and 5 cop cars show up. Why do we need 5 cop cars to show up. If we are in the safest county do we really need 4 back up cars for a 911 call. Do we actually need all of those police officers? Last week in Suffolk county I saw someone get pulled over by one police car, then two other cars showed up and there was a little coffee clotch action while the person pulled over was standing around waiting to either get a ticket or be sent on his way.

Tanii Chin, you are SO right! When I see cops standing around, I think "if these guys don't have anything to do, they should be doing pushups at least in a parking lot full of glass". I mean c'mon, where are my tax dollars GOING? Well maybe not the pushups part, but seriously these guys are nothing like the cops on CSI (my favorite show btw). They do REAL police work. Cops in my area should be chasing drug dealers constantly, like the one last week who robbed my neighbors daughter at knife point for her ipod. After the drug dealer got caught by the cop, he tried to stab the cop in the neck with that knife and got pepper sprayed! I heard the cop and his family got SUED because the idiot cop used too much force. And you know the worst part of it all, the cop got the day off from work AND got paid for it while he was in court!!! You believe this crap? MORE wasted tax money. Take it from me, I believe everything I read and hear cuz I know whats really going on, like when I pass cops at a crime scene you know they're not doing anything, just standing around talking. I catch up on all my news when i'm at work, like I am right now on a Tuesday afternoon wasting my company's dollars!!! Don't tell my boss lol cuz he would fire me in a heartbeat if he knew I was totally this useless! Anyways, I'm gonna go check my FB status real quick. Don't let these cops get a minute of rest! They're robbing people like you and me Tanii!!!!

@F. Peters You're attempt @ sarcasm is not amusing. Bring something constructive to the table or just go away.

Ahh another F. Peter fantasy scenario. Another holier than thou only my opinion counts and is right. Do you have anything intelligent to say or is it just sarcastic fantasy scenarios? Have you ever priced out a Union job vs. a non-union job? Have you ever seen a police car sit in the same spot for over 4 hours with no activity? These are reality not fantasy or sarcasm. As far as you wasting company time, well that's on your boss to control. In theory you should lose your job just like anyone wasting company time and money. Some are more lenient than others. My company regularly asks managers what websites they want blocked like facebook and CNN. Just because you are a poor employee F. Peters, doesn't mean everyone is. I believe that was the point that many on this board have been trying to make that you like to ignore. Nobody is saying the police don't deserve to be compensated but not to the tune of $250K. We are claiming and it is a claim that perhaps the county could do with fewer cops at the current compensation if there isn't enough for them to do that there are 5 cars at a single scene. Maybe only 2 needed to be assigned to that case and the rest could be patrolling that neighborhood you live in with the high crime rate.

I was at a CVS in Nassau Co a few months ago at 1am. There was a six car response there just as I arrived. I though that it was an armed robbery in progress. They had a suspect in cuffs on the kerb and were searching his car. A store clerk informed me that the cause was a shoplifting incident. Its a serious waste of resources to react with 6 cars to something like this!

Curiously, no pro-Mangano replies to this comment. Hmmm - wonder why?

Why? They paid back the money and are making profits...

How would that help Nassau County's Budget dilemma?

How about the anti-union people give up weekends and holidays and comp days which were all because of unions.

It is so blatant.. I hear you!! These people took public jobs years ago for no money but had benefits but are sooo lucky right now. But they're killing us! Remember when the private sector got all that money and the BONUSES??? Too bad those days are gone. The citibank CEO right after he helped sink this country only got like a $50 million parachute before he left. BS if you ask me. These cops get freakin PAID sick days!!!!

When are you talking about? The regular joe hasn't made more than a union employee or gotten bonuses in over 20 years. Non union employees haven't received a pension since in over 30 years. Most people do not get big bonuses or benefit packages. No one in my private company has received a bonus since 2007. Too bad your sarcasm doesn't translate into intelligent thought or understanding of the issues.

F Peters, you are such an idiot. The Citibank CEO doesn't live in Nassau Co.

This is going to sound mean but there are tons of qualified people out there just itching to build our homes, and provide our basic services and probably for cheaper just because they want to work. But again the Union bosses have inflated the rank and files egos to to point that they believe they are the only people who can do a particular job.

These union jobs should go to all the private sector employees who lost out on the high pay and inflated bonuses. Screw these working class union thugs who took the jobs for no money years ago! They don't know how lucky they are!!! Anyways, g2g, boss is coming...

F. Peters, why does the union protest anybody building a building with Non-Union workers. Why are the union thugs out there with their rat intimidating anyone that works on the job site? Why does the union charge such high union dues? Why is there a seniority pay in the union and not performance bonuses? Why does the union force people that want to work non union jobs from doing it? WHy does the union bring people in from outside the county to bulk up their numbers at these protests? How much is the compensation for the Union heads?

Do you even understand what you are defending?

What's your point? Are you implying that if they're po'd they might resort to sabotage?

Romulo, these guys collecting garbage and working in jails with prisoners throwing feces in their faces everyday DON'T KNOW what a real job is!!! You can't talk to these aristocrats!!!

F.Peters the union rep. Garbage man works, but he shouldn't get paid more than a NY State Senator or College professor. Correction officers work but they shouldn't get paid more than a Senator. I don't care how long they have been on the job there needs to be a cap. There are many people that collect garbage and get paid less than 50% of what union garbage men make. This isn't about the job they do it's the imbalanced compensation for what they do. By the way I know a few retired Corrections officers, your fantasy about their job isn't even close accurate.

I believe that there are TWO parties to a contractual agreement. The Union and Management. If one was to think this through rationally. Ask yourself this question. A Union cannot simply take benefits or salary increases for itself can it? That must be AGREED to by the opposite side, aka Management. So if a Union negotiates a fair agreement, and Management agrees with it and signs off on it. How does that make the UNION the bad guy? As I see it, BOTH parties had to agree on the sum total contract package. BOTH to me is UNION AND MANAGEMENT. So why are the UNIONS solely being blamed? I think Management is scape goating the Unions. Many civil service Unions cannot strike, so deals have to be made. To me it sounds like Management made agreements they couldn't afford. Does that make the Unions at fault? I don't think so.

It is happening here.

http://longisland.newsday.com/templates/simpleDB/?pid=173

What billionaires do you know that pay no taxes?

Patrick you are correct. But, the change now is that Mangano is attempting to de rail the NCPD Bravy train, they no longer suppot him. Simple really, just follow the money.

Nope, Maria, pretty sure cops will continue to do their jobs even if their benefits are cut.

Thank you Cathy. Right there with you every day.

Cathy, Newsday told me I should hate people like you. It's not the fault of the banks or government waste!! You are the enemy. You working class thugs are the reason this country is in a recession!!!

The "working Class thugs" as you like to put it so sarcasticly are not being blamed for the recession they are being blamed for inflating the need for increased tax revenue during a recession and refusing to make concessions so the non union workers can possibly maybe not have to pay increased taxes this year when their salary has not increased in the last 4 years.

It seems like you should quit and go get one of them high paying private sector jobs that you refer to.

FP, pls don't call Union workers the working class. The obvious reason I won't mention for fear of being controversial. Another reason is that the Democratic Party have spent a fortune in poll testing to find that tey like to be called "Middle Class" now.

MAria you are not accounting for the ebb and flow of an economy, technolgy, or workforce. You seem to think that because you hired someone because of a need they can never lose there job. If they are no longer necessary because the work no longer needs to be done or that technology has allowed for one to do the job of two or the worker is just lazy and you can get someone for half the cost that works twice as hard, then an employer should be allowed to fire him. If everyone left Nassau, you would still want the same number of teachers and cops regardless of the fact the ratios have changed.

They are not "breaking" the contract, they want to let people go or rollback salaries. You do realize it was the unions that broke the car manufacturers. Once they were able to renegotiate the union contracts, reduce the workforce and take advantage of robot technology they were able to turn a profit again.

NNNNAAAHHHHH according to Maria it's just easier for them all to keep their jobs and raise taxes on all of the people that live in Nassau.

Why do more with less when you can do less with more, the Union Way.

This county hasn't been the same since your "republican" Golatta brought itn down to its knees and in bankrupt.. thats who you should be blaming.. the republicans are for "the rich" always has been.. they don't give a rats ass about you. Thats the republican way take from the little people to save money for their big corporations... that gets all the tax breaks.

Joann, how do you explain then how Obama raised more money from Wall Street than anyone in history?

Irene when people are old and have lived beyond their expected years, they think they know it all, remember when? Years from now when I am old and addled, I too will be like Irene. She sees the world in a broad vision that only she can see. While she collects Social Security and enjoys STAR discount and her 25% off at Mcdonald's and everyone else is having a hard time making ends meet in Nassau county she expects the young to foot the bill. She believes that she has made it to the end and does not think anyone else's opinion is important just hers and her cat Mr Muggles. She is on the winning side of the inequity and will not budge as long as she is winning. She could have changed this inequity with her grand vision when she voted for Nixon or Eisenhower but she sat passively by while the world went down hill. She had a grand vision. She was making money in the 70s when we went through this same inflation cycle and kept her head above water. She didn't care that someone else was losing just that she was winning and she's sticking to her guns 30 years later. Ahh History. How so many repeat it and wonder why it never changes.

GCRes1, the fantasy is indeed over for these public workers.. When I was a kid, I would dream about collecting my neighbors garbage for low wages.. I would fantasize about having an inmate throw semen in my face when I was caught off guard. I could only hope I would make a fraction of some of those private sector employess.. That guy sleeping in the tractor? SCREW HIM. Just because he did more work in one midnight with a jackhammer then I did in my whole life doesn't mean he can sleep on the job. Who do these people think they are? They're getting benefits while I surf the web and write all these quirky intelligent posts online when I should be working is NOT FAIR.

F. Peters is rummaging through his fantasy bin again talking about throwing ....on a cop... he likes it dirty.

As far as the ultra sarcastic post. The issue is not that they are getting paid it's the fact they are currently paid more than a doctor of medicine or a professor at a college and it's on the tax payer to give more money in taxes so they can get their guaranteed raise while the private sector has been stagnant on raises since 2005. It's the union working with the tax payers to reduce expenses for the county and give the tax payer some much needed relief. You apparently don't understand or just don't care about the people paying their increased tax bill on the same paycheck they received 3 years ago as long as the union gets their raises. Try sympathy for the Non union employee that has busted hump for the last twenty years with a stagnant pay, higher taxes and utility costs and always making less than union and then having a union guy say "hey put in more for my raise".

@ F Peters, it seems that things have gotten worse than you advised in your earlier posts. Now prisoners are throwing semen in the faces of union workers rather than feces. Do you work as a Prison officer that you know so much about this?

They have fantasies about been in a NFL offensive line

If police were actually allowed to enforce the "actual laws", we wouldn't have such a terrible illegal alien problem in the USA.

They are allowed to enforce the "actual laws". They don't want to do the paperwork.

Irene what are the "actual laws" you are referring to?

Guys, we need to stop fighting and READ MORE NEWSDAY. If you don't believe everything you read then you're an IDIOT! Remember the article Newsday printed about how much of your tax bill goes to public services?? 9%. That's right! 9% goes to when you flush your toilets, police, garbage, jails, you name it!!! If I think about it, I pay MORE for CABLEVISION than I do for police! And I wouldn't change it for a thing. I think Cablevision should charge more frankly. How else can I watch Housewives of New Jersey in high def? And jack up the school taxes while you're at it. 91% of my $12,000 tax bill is not enough.

F Peters. I think you need a few more facts and less sarcasm and then maybe and I stress maybe someone will take you seriously.

I don't think Mangano is cutting enough quite frankly. I am tired of paying 10K a year in taxes to support these waste of salary union bubbas. Now I hear they feel that the county should raise taxes another 39% so they can continue to keep generous compensation packages? Are you kidding me? There is no way a cop or correction officer should be making a 100K + benefits BASE pay every year. They are not worth it IMHO. I am struggling just to come up with a decent down payment to replace my 17 year old car. Why? All my money is going to county taxes.

When I bought my house in the early 90's , I was paying close to 4K a year in taxes. I thought that was considerably high then.Now i pay 10K. In every county election, I always tried to look for or voted with the candidate I thought was going to lower my property taxes. Mangano was the first one I ever seen that even raised the issue during his campaign.

Base pay should be no more than 70K. Mangano is too soft. It is time we get someone in there that can really crack some heads and be tough with these unions. I want to see my taxes cut 39%, not raised.

Maria doesn't need to defend her point of view because she knows she's right and everyone else is wrong.

Maria is a member of these unions and is fed all of her information directly off the fact sheet she was sent by her union rep. They know better than everyone what is going on.

huh? I'm not a a millionaire so this is an issue to me so what's your point?

My point exactly, GCRes1. While I was typing my post you mentioned you are the 99%. What are you doing home when you should be at wall street stinking up the place? Get a job, not handouts.

Frank is that you. Did you change your name?

Just because they are protesting doesn't mean they don't have a job or even that they don't make more money than you. You see it as hippie vs working which is simplistic and sophomoric. Many see it as an inequity that needs to be fixed and would like more people to hear their voice. You are making too many assumptions about what the protests are about and who is involved without actually knowing anything about the people there or what they are actually protesting.

@ J Marshall. to whom are you referring to?

As for union rhetoric... give it a rest. The economy is in the tank, expenses are up, and tax revenues are down. You cannot expect residents to shoulder higer county and village taxes to maintain "cadillac" pension and medical plans.

this is a formula for disaster worthy of reciting in a Stephen King novella .

Unions need to make cuts just like everyone else in America is doing today.

@ Frank
You actually. But I see we are on the same side on this.

You think these Union Members are protesting? Maybe we should be protesting them...

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/44872639/ns/us_news-life/#.Tp3n-N4g88Z

@ Matteo. I might join then.

@ Matteo. The old fashioneds at RVC Links are terrible.

If the union refuses to negotiate when times are bad why should the owner or gov't give when times are good.

Michael, Cops are not allowed to strike, neither are health care workers. But maybe the others should show you what your money is paying for by taking some time off if Mangano gets away with breaking contracts. I don't know where everyone is getting the information that the union workers are not giving back. We have given back a lot in the past several years. As I said, stop drinking the Kool Aide and look for the facts instead of the hype.

What have you given back? No more rhetoric. Be specific? Did you take a pay cut? Was your vacation time cut? What was the union give back as far as you know Cathy?

J. To clarify, I work in a civil service/union job, but not tecnically for the county. Complicated I know. Our last contract gave back vacation days, a holiday and increased the health insurance portion for employees among other items. We have been working without a contact coming up on two years now. So no raises for anyone. I have said several times that someone needs to look into all the hiring of "contractors" in civil service positions at ridiculously inflated salaries, all of the people ineligible to take a civil service positions due to having already retired from the system who have been awarded waivers . All of the Nassau County jobs being given to non Nassau residents. Someone needs to find out why the NCCSC doesn't seem to mind all this circumventing of the civil service laws. The whole idea of civil service is to prevent the patronage that has so many people upset. Why are the laws in place not being adhered to????

The problem Cathy is that for that $35K salary the county is paying $20K in benefits. Yes your take home may be the same as someone making $35K but you also have medical coverage. Many places don't cover any or only 20% of costs for health care with no contribution to 401K. WHich means for every dollar a non union worker costs the employer a union person makes 1.6 times that.

J. You missed the part where I said I get a buy back for NOT costing my employer $20,000 since my husband's company (private sector) provides our famiy's benefits. I get $2000 a year (half every 6 months) instead of the benefits. Of course, out of that $2000 I only get $1000 and the government gets the other half in taxes. If I WAS taking the benefits, I would be paying about $100 every two weeks for the lowest level available to us. I am not sure of the pricing of the better plans since I do not need it at this time.

Cathy you still get benefits and still costs money and I don't use the benefits through my job and don't get a "buy back". Do you still get a pension? If you only opted out of health care you are saving residents between $1000 and $2500. Does your husband work in a tax payer funded union? If so then you are getting the benefits plus your "buy back" which is scamming the tax payer.

J. You seem to have a bit of a reading comprehension issue. I am not repeating myself again. Asked and answered.

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@ Bob ipman... CHINA.

Like it or not, sick and personal time is earned, and it is available to be used by the person who earns it. It is part of their salary package. But it is not unlimited, it is earned at a set rate. As far as my job goes, if you don't use your sick time, it is paid to you when you retire up to 200 days. So I think it is better for the company to have employees use it sooner than later, when they will probably be earning a higher salary, and it willl cost the company more to pay out in retirement than do without that employee for those days during their working years. If you are complaining about money, your are off base on this one. Personal days are not accrued, we get five a year. So no one is accumulating those or taking a ton of time off on them to run a business. By the way, this is 2011. A LOT of people work two jobs or more. God Bless the hard workers and those hustling to support their families. Would you rather they worked one job and collected food stamps on your dime? Or got free health care out of your tax dollars instead of working for it? What are you actually upset about????

How about we talk about the people who do NO WORK and get all that stuff out of your pocket instead of beating up people who work every day to pay their

THere are many stories on Long Island of bad teachers being moved into Admin jobs instead of being fired for long periods of time because it is so difficult to fire a union employee. The Union should police themselves and provide the best product to the employer.

That whole sick pays "arrangement" needs to be eliminated. It's a scam that people accumulate so that they can cash in in their final year to boost their final year salary and game the pension payouts after retirement. Pension payments should be based upon Base Salary, not Salary plus overtime plus sick days plus accumulated vacation time. Stop ripping off the taxpayers!

I believe the unions are willing to work with the county. But they are not willing to give 95% while the county only give 5%. County employees need to pay their bills too. The county employees cannot be expected to come up with all the money to solve the problems created over decades of mismanagement. There is a lot of waste that needs to be corrected before you should take money out of the pockets of the little guys. And a lot of contractors who should be replaced with civil service workers at more reasonable salaries before the guy making $30,000 takes a hit,

How many jobs could have been saved with the $2,000,000.00 Mangano threw in the toilet with his summer election? How about all the money being spent on consultants and contractors? Legal counsel? But no, take food out of the mouths of workers families first. Sure. Not every union employee is making $100,000+, in fact the majority are not. Consider that.

The county should give nothing. We (the tax payers) can't afford to give anything and are asking for something back for the past few years of largess. I'm not saying the County doesn't need to cut at the top as well but everyone has to give. If my taxes go up then everyone's salary needs to go down.

BREAK THE UNION and start over.

90 percent from the unions would be fine. The remaining 10 percent can be made up from "efficiencies" in employment.

Cathy we agree with you about patronage waste, contracts, debt, assessment review issues, but this does not change the fact that unions needs to concede as well

Matteo spot on with the Jackson reference.

Good idea, do away with the jobs, then more people can sit home on unemployment and welfare with even less working to pay for them. Let's have computers take over, we get so much pleasure trying to get satisfaction from them as it is. Press 1 for English... What do you think your taxes will do as unemployment skyrockets even more? Go DOWN? Eliminating jobs is not the solution.

Merrick....I agree with you. First things first.......post the yearly activity brken down by month of all the Police Officers in the County who earned over $150,000.00 or more last year. Lets actually see what they do each day that they deserve to get paid such generous salaries. I'm not anti-police at all, but enough is enough. When does it end. In my general tax bill, taxes towards the Police Dept. and Headquarters amounted to over 33% of my tax bill. For that amount I should be getting private escorts home from my local patrol officer.

actually look at historical cycles throughout the 20th century Cathy. Government worker layoffs always occur as the recession improves due to deregulation, like the 1950's when taxes dropped and government workers were laid off the economy soared and unemployment declined. However union membership was high but that was when being union actually meant middle class

SemperFidelis I agree, but let us do this for all county workers. They have to report their workdays bi-weekly or monthly to show what they accomplished. As a taxpayer I am like a shareholder in a corporation. I deserve to know what I am paying for with progress reports

naw teachers unions are the problem. Not individual teachers. In the Merrick district, they protested not getting raises during negotiations a few years ago when the recession first hit. Because god knows elementary school teachers deserve 6 figure salaries plus benefits

Who are these patronage people? Could you list out maybe 10 that you are aware of and where/who they work for? Tx

Agreed. We ignored the problem when times were good because the rise in property taxes was matched by a rise in salary levels and then in 2008 it all went downhill. But now we've identified the problem and there seems to be enough support to fix the problem. The question is will we? We will throw the bums out or leave it as business as usual? We have an election coming up and I'll predict only 1 or 2 seats will change hands because most voters go in and click or color in the same row for the last 30 years regardless of whose running because they are a registered.......sheep.

Maria- Those who work hard for many years or own a small business do not pay 10-15% tax. By the time you add up soc. security tax, state taxes and federal income taxes they are close to paying 45%. Remember these are the job creators. Warren Buffet pays 17% taxes because it's based on capital gains not earned income. You should check your facts before you print false information.

Holy crap. Do people really believe this nonsense b/c 1 billionaire liberal makes the claim? This guy is a loser and a cheat. His corp. OWES $1 BILLION in corp. taxes. So what if this guy makes all his money in stock, that's rare. Fact is, 47% of the country pays no Fed income tax. Top 1% pays close to 40% of all taxes...yes, that's fair. Top 10%, which is only about $115K per year, pays damn near all of it.

agreed there are 100 million in contractual obligations in the 2012 budget. Those are the consultant and contractors you are referring. Also there are 152 million in the District Attorney, Legislature and Mangano controlled expenses in the near 3.3 billion dollar 2012 proposed budget.

However this only adds up if you fire everyone in the DA, legislature, county executive, and contractual obligations of 252 million. We have over 330 million dollar shortfall next year because of pension and health care obligation rising.

This will follow the next year when you have already eliminated the only other 252 million in savings. So all that is left is 1.1 billion in union pay, comp, fringe benefits.

I recognize clerks and laborers need their jobs. They can be saved by the PBA and SOA giving in. If the SOA which makes more than near 180,000 average salary cut their salaries in half while keeping all their benefits would alone provide.

Example Robert Turk in the Nassau Police Force makes a total compensation of over 876,000 dollars. This is not middle class. The ranking senior members of the Police unions are taking this county for a ride including the dues paying members

Merrick7- I read in Newsday that the police union no longer supports Belesi.

Yes that is kinda my point. Despite being a member of the SOA, a former Nassau policeman even Belesi came out against his union brethren risking their support to make clear concessions need to be made.

please define said concessions. Also deferred pay is not a giveback. You still get the pay just at a later date. You save the taxpayers nothing and it costs more for us later

in 2012, more good news in addition to deferred payments to police and detective unions from 2009, that were received this year (awesome concessions btw really saving us mondo money. Come next year, things get even worse for the budget: The county will pay out deferred wage and longevity payments to police, detectives and, twice, to superior officers, to cover work those employees did in 2009.

Its genius if you think about it, the unions claim they sacrificed but not receiving raises that year. The budget gets balanced and they get to claim they are the giving sort. Then in a few years after a couple of balanced budgets and unions claiming they have given too much. All of the sudden waves of increases and raises fill their salaries. Destroying the budget. Bankrupting Nassau's coffers forcing a huge double digit tax increase, hurting the seniors on fixed budgets, the young couples with kids, the aging couple with kids, the actual middle class workers that pay for all their benefits and 401ks on their own and have not received a raise in 10 years and its not deferred it just is not coming. Its like a freaking time bomb. THANK YOU UNIONS!! YOU DO TOO MUCH

There really should be a cap on these raises since many of the the top tier salaries for the Union are double what the same position would make in private.