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Pit Bulls: Bad Dogs, or Just a Bad Rap?

Patch investigates the facts and misconceptions surrounding pit bulls and what the Town of North Hempstead is doing to help ease an overabundance of the dogs at local shelters.

As pit bull attacks continue to make media headlines, large numbers of the breed account for an overwhelming majority of dogs which enter U.S. animal shelters and never leave.

In a two-part series, Patch will investigate the facts and misconceptions surrounding the breed, and an ongoing program that is working to ready unwanted and abused pit bulls in the Town of North Hempstead for successful adoption.

Are pit bulls as dangerous as they are made out to be or are they getting a bad rap? 

There is an absolute misconception, says one local expert.  

"Statistically [pit bulls] are not the breed of dog that has the most dog bites," says Susan Hassett, the director of the Town of North Hempstead Animal Shelter. "That's usually one of the smaller breeds." 

Bites by smaller dogs like the cocker spaniel or lhasa apso are more common, Hassett says, but larger K-9's like pit bulls, German shephard's or Rottweilers usually get the headlines because more damage is caused when attacks occur — and more fear. 

And Chihuahua or poodle attack will rarely draw much attention.

The strength difference between a 60-pound pit bull terrier and a smaller dog is the most significant factor when it comes to the danger perception — not necessarily the frequency.

Not long ago ago, pit bulls had a gentler reputation. Some were used as nanny dogs used by people to watch ther kids, according to Hassett. These days, pit bulls are frequently falling into the hands of the wrong type of owners for dog fighting.

"If those people were getting beagles and training beagles to fight, we wouldn't be hearing about it," said Hassett.

Remember Peetie of the TV show the "Little Rascals," or the RCA dog? Both were popular pit bulls that helped drive popularity, but along the way the breed's reputation changed in the public eye.

With pit bull attacks now consistently getting top headlines and high profile cases like that of NFL football star Michael Vick hurting the pit bull image, the dogs have attracted a tough reputation which has hurt adoption chances.

Pit bulls are now the dominant dogs at most pounds, but just a few decades ago it was different, according to Hassert, who has worked at the North Hempstead shelter for 35 years.

"If you walked in the shelter, every dog was a black and brown shephard mix with stand-up ears. After that, lab mixes," says Hasset, reflecting on the dog population when she began working at the shelter.

Now battling a bad reputation, large numbers of pit bulls are unfortunately finding it more difficult than other breeds to make their way out of shelters and into loving homes.

"We get all kinds of dogs in our shelter and they get adopted, these dogs are just tougher to get out," says Hassett.

On Monday, part two looks at the Progressive Pit Bull Program in North Hempstead which is working to give pit bulls a better chance at adoption.


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debbie bell March 18, 2013 at 07:25 pm
Are "Know your Beagle" and "This is the Border Collie" racist books?
Is the AKC racist to insist that only purebred dogs be permitted in their registry? To compare human race to dog breed is ludicrous. God/nature created human races. Humans created dog breeds via selective breeding, for different traits and different "jobs". I do spend a lot of time with pit bulls. In the past our multi-breed rescue accepted/placed pits, but we learned the hard way after our pits killed other dogs, in unprovoked, sustained attacks. Pits were created for unprovoked, sustained attacks, as this was necessary for pits to win dog fights. Want proof that pits are different? Essentially all USA dog fighters choose only pits. Pits do seem to not maul assertive/confident people (vets/groomers), but that doesn't save their elderly neighbors or passerby children, or little dog walking leashed down the street. There are videos of torn up pits, after dog fights, being sewn back up without anesthesia. So pits probably won't snap at you if you give them their vacs. But if you need a dog to rip the scalp off your neighbor or a visiting child, pits are the best. How come pit mongers continue to use the chi bite/pit mauling comparison. That's plain insane. Linda Henry, owner of 4 beloved house dog pits learned the hard way about her pits, as she now has no arms and only one eye. Chihuahuas cannot do that, no matter how their try. Pits do this repeatedly, from coast to coast.
dava cana March 18, 2013 at 08:10 pm
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dava cana March 18, 2013 at 08:10 pm
Every single day. Pitbull advocates cannot deny that they know pitbulls are capable of doing this...any pitbull. Over and over, pitbull owners whose pitbulls have killed or mutilated a person or another pet hang their heads and say they would never have believed their sweet, precious, loving, lick you to death, cuddly, scared of thunder, nanny dog was capable of pulling a child's face off... It is time for criminal prosecution of pitbull owners every time this happens because they are quick to defend the breed even following an attack and they ridicule those of us who know exactly what pitbulls do, therefore they cannot claim ignorance when theirs attack. Send the owners to jail, BAN THE BREED.
Katy Wilkerson March 18, 2013 at 08:51 pm
You are advocating for the extermination of an entire breed based on one bad experience? What is your problem? Would you advocate for the extermination of labs if one attacked you? Or poodles? How about Shitzus? What is wrong with you?
deborah marchini March 18, 2013 at 08:54 pm
You are blaming the victim. Pits are being bred carelessly, by people who select for size and aggression, and are overbred the way cocker spaniels once were with all the attendant personality issues. Pits are sometimes owned by people who think it's cool to have a dog with a tough reputation, or want the dog to protect them. They may fail to train the dog properly, or neglect it entirely by leaving it outside with little human contact. Those are bad breeders, and bad owners. I have seen pits with scars from fighting because they were trained to do so, who display no aggression towards humans. Dogs are dogs. Despite their breed traits, they all have one thing in common; They evolved to look to humans for sustenance, and reward humans with love, loyalty, and protection in return. If you want to attack the "pit problem," ask your local government and legislators to increase the resources that go toward busting backyard breeders who sell puppies for $20, and dog-fighting rings that feed the demand for those puppies. With responsible breeding and responsible ownership, there won't be a "pit problem."
deborah marchini March 18, 2013 at 09:20 pm
Oh, and I forgot. If you see a cruel, neglectful, or irresponsible owner of any dog, call the DA's office.
Scott Ingalsbe March 18, 2013 at 10:55 pm
amen.
Scott Ingalsbe March 18, 2013 at 11:06 pm
For your info. I was raised with a pit nanny , and have raised many pitts my self 90% of which were non-agressive the other 10% were delt with responcibly. As for Petey I had a 90lb brendal pit not once did he ever bite anyone or any thing yet he was poisoned by an ignorant pit fearing uneducated individual like your self....
Scott Ingalsbe March 18, 2013 at 11:09 pm
Amen....
Sean Hassett March 18, 2013 at 11:26 pm
Katy, I am in no way advocating for the extermination of the entire breed based on one bad experience, I am advocating to allow the breed to die out and become extinct based on many tragedies all over the world involving pitbulls and vulnerable children and the elderly. Please read what I wrote properly. "Neutered" means to render them incapable of reproducing, not killing them.
Sean Hassett March 18, 2013 at 11:40 pm
One other thing Katy, those other breeds that you mention, labs, poodles, shitzus, are not known for their bite-force. Pitbulls also tend to bite and hold for much longer than other breeds.
There are some interesting statistics quoted on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pit_bull that show that pitbulls account for much higher rates of "accidents", both in general and with respect to their relative population. See the section subtitled "Attacks on Humans".
Kimr March 19, 2013 at 02:56 am
The nanny dog is a myth that many people like to believe. I have known some great pit bulls and was very comfortable around them. But if anyone thinks their dog would never bite them they are only fooling themselves. Any dog will bite given the right ( or should I say the wrong) circumstances. The problem with the pit bulls is the amount of damage they do and they don't want to let go. I think they are wonderful dogs but I wouldn't want to own one because of the liability and the guilt I would feel if someone was seriously injured by my pet.
unknownauthor March 19, 2013 at 01:24 pm
For all of you dazed and confused people, the problem with pits is that they are way overpopulated and poorly bred. They are not inherently viscous animals. Back in the 1800s they were most definitely used as nanny dogs and actually they were quite popular pets due to their loyalty and affection. For those of you not aware, Hellen Keller had one and the first dog to live in the White House was a pit. The reason you sometimes read that a pit attacked its owner out of nowhere all comes down to the poor breeding that is being done these days. We all know that they are commonly used as fighting dogs..and the reason for that is because the "ring masters" must be able to get in the middle of the fight, pull the dogs apart, and not get bit. Pitbulls were never ever bred to be aggressive towards people. Historically, if in a fight the dog bites the human, that dogs bloodline is discontinued. In addition, it is not they have "locking jaws that won't let go"..there is no locking mechanism whatsoever. It's their strength and persistence that resembles a lock. As a proud pitbull owner, I can tell all of you haters that there is nothing vicious about pits when it comes to the human-dog bond.
Josie Frandsen March 20, 2013 at 12:31 am
There is no such thing as "attacked out of the blue" and "attacked without warning". That's something that people who don't know squat about reading a dog's body language like to say, because they know full well they're clueless. There's ALWAYS a reason. There is ALWAYS a warning sign. Just because people are too damn clueless to figure it out, doesn't make it true.
Pits are known to sometimes act aggressively towards small animals. So don't bring your Pit around small animals, duh. It's that easy. It's people who insist on forcing a square peg into a round hole who've created this whole mess by treating their Pit Bulls like Golden Retrievers. They're not Golden Retrievers. Pits are pretty useless as guard dogs for the simple reason that they're too friendly! Dogs like German Shepherds and Rotties are great guard dogs because they've been bred that way. Pit Bulls do what we bred them to do, and if you can't figure out how to handle a Pit Bull, don't get one!
Sean Hassett March 20, 2013 at 12:47 am
There is not always a warning sign. Not for someone just in the street and not having interaction with the dog, not for children mauled by some beast on the loose. Even if there is a warning sign, that may not be enough to prevent an attack by such a strong dog; there must be means of escape. People should not have to start planning their escape when they see a pit bull.
There are too many people who have pit bulls that are too careless or unable to control them. Why are pit bulls over-represented in attack and kill statistics? Poorly bred? Exactly why the breed should be allowed to become extinct.
IRISH March 20, 2013 at 01:07 am
Some of the.comments here are embarassing. If you have never spent anytime with a pitbull.please keep.your uneducated comments to your self or atleast do some research before you blast your fear ramblings on pits.
i have worked in a shelter with many pits and doing that has led me to adopted my pit bull. Pit Bulls actually have test higher then golden retrivers on a temperment test which should is shocking considering most comments on here. Pit Bulls are not people or dog aggressive by nature. They do not JUST SNAP or are a ticking time bomb. That is something the media portrays.
IRISH March 20, 2013 at 01:07 am
Pit Bulls do not lock their jaws that is a myth, they also do not have the strongest bite that belongs to the rottie.
Monster are not born they are created. We are blaming the wrong side of the leash. People and horrible ownership and training are the reasons pits get a bad name. Out of all the dogs Vick trained to kill that were rescued all but a few were rehabilitated the ones that werent were sick and died. 90% of those pits are therapy dogs now, how can a breed that is so monsterous and dangerous to people be therapy dogs? Especially ones who were trained to kill? So i ask you again how many of you have actually spent time with a pit bull? One last thing before i go, many media outlets label any dog that slightly looks like a pit bull a pit bull even though that dog may not be a pit bull. why cause it sells right now. every decade has had its dog to fear. 1st the rottie, then the doberman, then the shepard, and now the pit.
Lisa Patterson Lay March 20, 2013 at 01:11 am
I have worked with some of these same Pit Bulls at the TONH Animal Shelter as well as dogs of many many other breeds. My experience is, they are smart and extremely determined to please. They are also strong and not passive. With the right experience, a Pit can make the best and mushiest of pets, companions who can anticipate the moods and needs of their family. In this case, in the battle of nurture versus nature, Nature wins big time!
Sean Hassett March 20, 2013 at 02:06 am
I have spent a lot of time with multiple pit bulls that were very nice affectionate dogs, but as I wrote above, I also saw a sudden attempted attack with no warning. I will not let my children near one nor would ever have one in my house, even the nice ones that I have been friendly with.
IRISH March 20, 2013 at 03:08 am
So Sean by your view any dog breed that has one dog jump at you in an aggressive way should be wiped from the face of earth. that my friend is a very understandable and educated stance on this topic. Its not fair to the breed to have such a closed mind about this topic. The dogs are the most loyal breed of dog hence why you can get a pit bull to fight if thats what the owner wants them to do. All pit bulls want to do is please their pack leader. Just google pit bulls and babies and see how many amazing pits are laying, licking, anx doing all the things you expect mans best friend to do. Once you gain a pit bulls trust you have the greatest four legged furry friend you could ever ask for. Dont blanket your outlook.on.a breed based off of one experience. You are missing out on a lot of awesome dogs.
Sean Hassett March 20, 2013 at 03:12 am
No it's not about the one. Why are pit bulls over-represented in serious and fatal attack statistics? That is sufficient reason to ban the breed.
IRISH March 20, 2013 at 01:37 pm
Because they are the most popular breed of dog at the current moment..They are also misrepresented in news satistics any breed that even remotely looks lije a pit is reported as a pit bull. When you have ganstars and rappers talkin and rappin about a breed of dog they way they do those who want yo be like the ass hats they see on tv raise these dogs wrong. like i said before a pit will do whatever its owner wants it to do. they want to please their owner more then anything. they are a very strong dog very muscular and easily trained. If a golden retriver bites a kid its not generally reported on the news, why cause it doesnt sell news papers. just like right now with gun violence you only here about the bad things guns do, u never here about the gun that saved a family from a home intruder. so you never here about the pit bull who saved a kid from another dog. If Pits are so bad then why are there so many people trying to save the breed, why are there so many pages on facebook about saving the breed. Like i said before MONSTER ARE CREATED NOT BORN. All dogs are born the same way just like children their environment shapes who and what they become. Start Blaming the other side of the leash. we are the ones to blame.
IRISH March 20, 2013 at 01:48 pm
http://www.nationalcanineresearchcouncil.com/
please poke around this site, like i said do some research because the media doesnt they dont care what they report as long as watch, view, or read what they write. They have dog bite stats for every year and trust me most dogs that attack people are not family pets they are dogs bought for the wrong reason and not socialized.
unknownauthor March 20, 2013 at 03:56 pm
First I'd like to say that dogs do not attack for no reason or without warning. However, what we as humans see as reasons or warning signs are not the equivalent to what a dog sees. It is a fact that the pits won't necessarily show the same traditional warning signs as other dogs do. You may not get a growl or a snarl. That doesn't mean that sign isn't there. These signs will often be subtle..such as stiff body posture, hard penetrating stare, erect tail, raised hackles, ears forward and other things that humans maybe wouldn't notice. Pits are also one in the Terrier group. Everyone knows that terriers have high prey drives. That's old news! So when someone who isn't in direct contact with the dog is attacked, you can't just say it was for no reason. Movement is a huge attention grabber for dogs especially the terriers. Why do you think dogs try to chase squirrels or rabbits. In addition to that, people need to get this through their heads: IT IS NOT THAT PITBULL ATTACKS ARE OVER REPRESENTED IN FATAL DOG ATTACK STATS...OTHER BREEDS ARE UNDER REPRESENTED!! Do your research before you come and attack my breed. When was the last time you saw a cocker spaniel attack headline in the papers? The media has done a horrible job with staying unbiased. Journalists will only report on the things that will hold public interest.
D Waters March 20, 2013 at 06:48 pm
...enhanced through selective breeding...you answered the questions...MAN engineering a perfectly fine dog to create the fighting Pit Bull. Should they all die because of MAN?
And I do NOT believe statistics because I would BET A LOT of dog bites go unreported but Pit Bull bites are always "good" press. There are an awful lot of Pit Bulls out there living happy and loving lives without incident...living with other dogs, cats and children. Susan, can I ask if you have ever really known a Pit Bull? I work with many and frankly, I would rather handle a Pit than a Chihuahua. Responsible owners KNOW their dog. As for insurance companies...I got dropped for having a Chow...never had an incident with her 10 years of life.My current Chow is a Therapy Dog and a Canine Good Citizen. Picking a breed to ban is arbitrary and capricious. EACH dog should be judged on its individual merit. It is IGNORANT to bash and entire breed.
D Waters March 20, 2013 at 06:50 pm
Well said Deborah.
D Waters March 20, 2013 at 07:00 pm
...and your comment to hold a shelter director personally responsible for ANY dog is ridiculous.
Katy Wilkerson March 23, 2013 at 11:45 pm
http://www.salon.com/2013/02/05/in_defense_of_the_pitbull_partner/ . Everyone needs to read this article. It has links to sources (not bias either way) and it contains facts, not myths about pit bulls. Read it before you judge. Follow the links to sources, too.
Susan Niewender April 2, 2013 at 11:12 pm
Amen to Deborah-its all according to how a person raises the dog-most want them to be cool and raise them improperly then get rid of them to kill shelters because they become aggressive its just wrong-I look at these death row animal shelters and most are pits or pit mixed-if you dont have the skills or the time to raise these animals or any animal for that matter do the dog and/or cat a
favor and don't adopted or get one- they are living animals not some toy to play and dispose of when you get tired of it-get real people
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