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Schimel: Gun Lobby Impedes Crime Prevention Measure in State Budget

Microstamping does not take away rights from law-abiding gun owners, the state assemblywoman says.

The powerful gun lobby’s influence has once again prevented common sense legislation that would provide law enforcement with a tool to catch criminals. The New York State Assembly included microstamping in their budget proposal in response to the Governor repealing CoBIS [Combined Ballistic Identification System] in his executive budget.  The gun lobby has prevailed to keep microstamping out of the final budget.

Case after case remain unsolved even though there is a preponderance of evidence such as shell casings left behind at the scene of neighborhood killings. These unsolved cases demand a solution that is not unlike the metal stamping used on automobiles, vehicle Identification numbers (VIN). The terrorist who left a Nissan Pathfinder in Times Square in 2010 was identified through the car’s VIN number. The break in the case occurred when a NYPD Detective went under the vehicle and obtained the hidden metal stamped VIN number, which identified the owner of record, who in turn, sold it to the suspect.

Like the VIN number on a car, the sole purpose of microstamping is to provide police with a more accurate method to track down the owner of a gun that is used in a crime. The gun lobby’s rallying cry is that microstamping is another piece of legislation that takes away rights from law abiding gun owners.  This couldn’t be further from the truth.

In a letter to Governor Cuomo, Remington, a large gun manufacturer in Illinois, went so far as to threaten to leave the New York market if the state implemented microstamping. This is tantamount to extortion.  

Violent gun crime continues to spike. Law enforcement deaths are on the rise. It is a sad day for New York when the gun lobby can trump public safety once again.

Assemb. Michelle Schimel, D-Great Neck, represents New York's 16th district. 

Dave April 03, 2012 at 05:33 PM
You are not supposed to start a sentence with "And" either, Nassau Taxpayer. If we are going to discuss grammar, syntax, and spelling, we can. I would rather stick to mopping up the floor debating you on guns, gun control, and the constitution. I ask again, would you prefer one of us "gun nuts" protected you or your wife/kids/loved ones if we saw them being raped or attacked? Or would you rather us "gun nuts" leave them to be a victim?
Nassau Taxpayer April 03, 2012 at 05:42 PM
Dave, I've made it quite clear to JA, Sr., and just to be clear, it goes for you, too: Fidel, Felipe and Kim Jung Un could really use your help. Be sure to invite your gun nut buddies to join you. On the topic of sentence construction, you lag modern usage: <http://www.dailywritingtips.com/can-you-start-sentences-with-%E2%80%9Cand%E2%80%9D-and-%E2%80%9Cbut%E2%80%9D/> Really, Dave, proper word usage ought to be a priority for you, as scions of the Repugnican Party. You have talking points to stick to, right?
Dave April 03, 2012 at 05:49 PM
Not sure I understand...Those countries not only restrict gun ownership heavily for law abiding civilians, but those countries are also communist/socialist. Republicans are much more against socialism than Democrats, so why would what you are saying make any sense? Do you want to return to debating gun control, or continue with the personal insults? I ask again: If your wife/children/loved ones were being attacked or raped, would you rather one of us law abiding "gun nuts" was there to help, or would you rather your loved ones be defenseless victims?
Johnny Appleseed, Sr. April 03, 2012 at 05:52 PM
"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." Paraphrased, Gandhi You're only on Act II of the play, Nassau Taxpayer. The rest of the country has already moved on to Act III at the very least. And you look very tiny & insignificant in our rearview mirrors.
Dave April 03, 2012 at 05:52 PM
Fortunately, Nassau Taxpayer, you are in the minority when it comes to your crazy views on guns and gun control. The vast majority of people AND POLICE OFFICERS in the US, including those in Nassau County, are VERY for the right of law abiding people to own and carry guns for protection. So I guess everyone but you is a "gun nut," huh?
Nassau Taxpayer April 03, 2012 at 06:00 PM
Look again. I stand with Mike Bloomberg, Ray Kelly, and more than one thousand mayors and chiefs of police. Not so insignificant, eh, JA?
Johnny Appleseed, Sr. April 03, 2012 at 06:02 PM
Dave, why do we even waste our time trying to point out the fallacies of the Nassau Slave? Her / his arguments have been already thrown out twice by the US Supreme Court, and this oaf won't or can't accept it, so obviously there is something sad & wrong with this person. I say we may have to stop feeding this delusional troll. Although it DOES feel good to point out how wrong he / she is with every single fact we bring to the table. By the way, I've often found that people like this argue with no intelligence at all. N.T. says that we should go to North Korea because we love firearms, yet the people there are forbidden to own them because of the dictatorship, which is what N.T. wants to live under. LOL! See? Obviously, no intelligence. N.T. is the one who should go live there... Just simply astounding.
Nassau Taxpayer April 03, 2012 at 06:02 PM
Wrong again, Dave (or is it "JA, Sr."?). I stand with Mike Bloomberg, Ray Kelly, and more than one thousand mayors and chiefs of police. Not so insignificant, eh?
Jim Page April 03, 2012 at 06:02 PM
Do you really expect the inventor to give and unbiased appraisal of his invention? The independent tests done in California (hardly a bastion of gun nuts) faulted the technology, Identifying 3 cases out of 10,000 is pretty poor.
Johnny Appleseed, Sr. April 03, 2012 at 06:07 PM
No, still not significant. Bloomberg & his coalition are being called out more & more every day for their Anti 2nd Amendment stance...down the drain, slow but sure. By the way, Bloomberg had a dead Mayor sign 2 or three letters recently. Yeah. A dead Mayor. You should double check his count for him next time. Quote: Nassau Taxpayer 2:00 pm on Tuesday, April 3, 2012 Look again. I stand with Mike Bloomberg, Ray Kelly, and more than one thousand mayors and chiefs of police. Not so insignificant, eh, JA?
Dave April 03, 2012 at 06:08 PM
So you stand with a scum bag career politician, and a police chief who admits that microstamping won't work? Yes, Ray Kelly admitted that microstamping would not work. And 1000 mayors? You mean the 80 mayors and 100 police chiefs that Schimel touts? A little off base on the number there, genius. 80 mayors and 100 police chiefs is a TINY minority of mayors and chiefs in NY. The majority of mayors and police chiefs in NYS are against microstamping, and against these terrible gun control laws. Are you simply ignorant of the facts, or willingly ignoring them?
Dave April 03, 2012 at 06:12 PM
Johnny - I agree...Nassau Taxpayer doesn't deserve any more time. I refuse to continue the debate until he answer this: I ask again: NASSAU TAXPAYER, If your wife/children/loved ones were being attacked or raped or beaten to death, would you rather one of us law abiding "gun nuts" was there to help, or would you rather your loved ones be defenseless victims?
Nassau Taxpayer April 03, 2012 at 06:18 PM
Dave, I wouldn't trust you or your "JA, Sr." alter ego near my loved ones. See ya.
Johnny Appleseed, Sr. April 03, 2012 at 06:25 PM
Yessss, good question, I would like to know his / her answer to that as well. I'm betting it will be a cop out answer, though. I have posed these types of questions to antis before, and they always answer with a weak cop-out.
Nassau Taxpayer April 03, 2012 at 06:27 PM
JA, Sr., I wouldn't trust you or your "Dave" alter ego near my loved ones. See ya.
Dave April 03, 2012 at 06:31 PM
Well Nassau Taxpayer...I guess you don't trust a NYC police lieutenant and Long Island resident to protect you or your loved ones. Because that is exactly what I am. Good luck in life, sir.
Johnny Appleseed, Sr. April 03, 2012 at 06:31 PM
See Dave?! I soooo called it: TOTAL Cop out. And the buffoon thinks you and I are the same person. LOL, chuckle, chuckle.
Nassau Taxpayer April 03, 2012 at 06:32 PM
Y'all be careful out there.
Johnny Appleseed, Sr. April 03, 2012 at 06:33 PM
Oooh, seems Nassau Slave had already copped out before I even called it; I had not hit "refresh" yet. Even more poetic.
Nassau Taxpayer April 03, 2012 at 06:33 PM
Keep laughing, stay ignorant.
Johnny Appleseed, Sr. April 03, 2012 at 06:34 PM
BRAVO, DAVE, WELL DONE. Did not see that one coming. And thank you. Quote: Dave 2:31 pm on Tuesday, April 3, 2012 Well Nassau Taxpayer...I guess you don't trust a NYC police lieutenant and Long Island resident to protect you or your loved ones. Because that is exactly what I am. Good luck in life, sir.
Dave April 03, 2012 at 06:34 PM
Nassau taxpayer - Then how about yourself? If your wife/children/loved ones were being raped or attacked or beaten to death, would YOU rather have a gun to protect them, or would you rather them be defenseless victims?
Nassau Taxpayer April 03, 2012 at 06:41 PM
Dave, you show very poor judgment if you are who you claim to be. Turn in your weapon and subject yourself to a no-fault psychological evaluation before you are ordered to do so.
Johnny Appleseed, Sr. April 03, 2012 at 06:42 PM
Ummmmmm, no. We've already proven that you are the ignorant one. And the Supreme Court has agreed with us. Twice. Stop embarrassing yourself; it's makes everyone on your side very uncomfortable. But it IS an endless source of comedy for my side, so maybe you should continue. QUOTE: Nassau Taxpayer 2:33 pm on Tuesday, April 3, 2012 Keep laughing, stay ignorant.
Nassau Taxpayer April 03, 2012 at 06:42 PM
Keep laughing, stay ignorant, "Dave".
Dave April 03, 2012 at 06:43 PM
Thank you, sir. Unfortunately, some people, like our friend Nassau Taxpayer, base all of their decisions and opinions on emotions, instead of facts and logic. I am telling you right now, and this is a FACT...NONE of the law enforcement officers I know are in favor of these crazy gun control measures (like microstamping), especially those gun control laws implemented by Bloomberg and the NYPD politicians. Only a minority of politically and financially driven mayors and police chiefs are for these laws, because it gives them funding and pads their wallets. The actual street officers and sergeants are very for law abiding people owning and carrying all kinds of guns...We know that police can't be everywhere at once, and people need to take their protection into their own hands sometimes. But, if that happens, it makes the police chiefs and mayors look like they don't have control...Can't have that, can we?
Dave April 03, 2012 at 06:47 PM
How do I show poor judgement? Because I understand the constitution, and I understand that law abiding people, especially law abiding gun owners, don't commit crimes with their guns? Law abiding people use their guns many times a year for protection, and I support it, as do most police officers. Sorry you disagree with the majority of LEOs out there.
Johnny Appleseed, Sr. April 03, 2012 at 06:50 PM
And again, Nassau Slave, Dave and I are not the same person. Again, embarrasing yourself.
Johnny Appleseed, Sr. April 03, 2012 at 07:51 PM
By the way, what can be done to have Schimel impeached / recalled? Any elected official who tramples the Constitution that they have sworn to protect should be legally removed from Office. I'm not going to pretend to know the laws for doing this in NY, so I am reaching out to all of you who may know the legal procedures. If this is a legal option in NY, then we should set our minds to making it a reality.
casey rybeck April 03, 2012 at 11:10 PM
"Common sense" legislation? Absolutely nothing makes sense about this bill. Anyone with any "common sense" will see right through this ridiculous bill, and know that no crime will be solved or deterred by it. These people are living in a fantasy world!! They need to simply act on the existing laws, instead of just making new laws, so everybody will just "feel safer" every time something bad happens. This is the same as telling people that all is well, just to make them "feel" comfortable while the ship is sinking.

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