Tell Us: Penalty Fee Suspension

Will you take advantage of this program?

The  is suspending penalty fees associated with unpermitted work. What's more, it has revamped procedures that triggered unnecessary hardship and delays for residents when it came to filing applications and awaiting permits.

The program extends through Dec. 31, 2013. 

With penatlies lifted, do you plan to bring any unauthorized improvements and renovations in your home up to code? Tell us in the comments. 

Joseph Mirzoeff July 11, 2012 at 10:46 AM
Yes I will take advantage of this program. I got the forms yesterday. But, I object to the process where the building department claimed I "may have unpermitted work." They don't have records of it, and an inspector tricked his way into my house in order to place this burden upon me.
Steve klyce July 11, 2012 at 11:39 AM
As I see it. The permitting process can protect a homeowner or potential homeowner from accepting construction that does not meet code (read safety). But I have heard many cases similar to that of JM where permitting records have been misplaced/lost within the building dept and then homeowners fined for having unpermitted work after uninvited discovery inspections. The burden for proving unpermitted work should lie with the department, not the unwitting homeowner who bought or sold a property in good faith. This being impossible, and the improbability that a homeowner can find that little stack of pink approval slips and permit applications, the situation is at an impasse. The building department does not have the resources to go through all the paperwork for every home and then do a walkthrough to look for unpermitted work. As well, many homeowners may not have the resources to amend unpermitted construction that does not meet code. This is an important issue, but the building department should be the friend of the homeowner, protecting against fraud. They should not act as a police force to "catch" the unwary and unwitting resident.
David sanders July 11, 2012 at 12:11 PM
I do not trust the building department as long as Kaiman and a cop (commissioner) are in charge , this is another trick to " catch" innocent home owners
Joseph Mirzoeff July 11, 2012 at 12:43 PM
Government stinks in this extremely high-taxed community. We actually pay to be oppressed on many government levels. The arrogance is amazing, whether it is the schools, the building department, or the Feds (NY State has been a little better lately, but s starting reform from a ridiculous place -- I mostly like Cuomo and Martins). I am marching with Occupied Wall Street today.
Joseph Mirzoeff July 11, 2012 at 12:58 PM
This goes on when homeowners are high-stressed as well, either getting a loan or trying to sell their house -- so there's a lot of money flowing at a time of pressure. Contractors are also intimidated by the building department, and I suspect, hand-in-glove mischief between the two groups that ends up screwing the less informed homeowners. I am considering filing a police report with the PW police on how this building department inspector tricked his way into my house and then proceeded to set up what is essentially a robbery of my time and money.
bob young July 11, 2012 at 02:19 PM
the occupy guys are for big government
bob young July 11, 2012 at 02:20 PM
you shold be marching with the tea party. they are for small limited government, freedom and individual responsibility
Joseph Mirzoeff July 11, 2012 at 02:34 PM
@Bob Young. The problem is misuse of funds (and oppression) as well as and more than too much funds. I like many Tea Party ideas as well, mostly because government generally hasn't been trustworthy and it is hard to get rid of the effect of bribery (aka campaign finance). I can't vote for Romney (the worst, the tool of the rich and corporations) or Obama, but I might have voted for the Tea Party's Ron Paul.
Joseph Mirzoeff July 11, 2012 at 03:24 PM
@Bob Young: Occupy Wall Street is against war and military extension, like Ron Paul. They are against Homeland Security and oppression at home like Ron Paul. They are against corruption in banking, like Ron Paul. All these things are power abuse and really expensive. OWS and Tea Party have a lot in common -- and the enemy, current wasteful overspending Republicans and Democrats have a lot in common with each other -- i.e. government as usual corruptly based on bribery, where we started this tangent.
Ben July 11, 2012 at 04:44 PM
TONH Building Permits have been around from the 1940s and untill the early 1990s most all residents and contractors ignored the need for a permit. I had enclosed a porch used a contractor who many of my neighbors had used who did the job with no permit and the new addition of electric and plumbing "load" had invalidated the Certificate of Occupancy on the house. In 2004 the market was booming and I was ready to sell and so I had to clean up this mess in order to sell the home. I paid total of just $3K for an architect to create plans and fines to TONH not a lot of money in view of the astronomical profit made on that house it was pennies in the big picture. And there was no way around this with no C of O a home may not be sold a buyer is not able to get finacing without a C of O. And the woman at the TONH was great she was competant and polite in between her cigarettes I bet that she has retired. The new group at the TONH Building Department the storefront office on Plandome Road are a bunch of men who act like women ask dozens of irrelevent questions and gossip a group of silly queens work here now who are paid to excercise a myriad of inefficeincies and delay tactics that frustrate residents of the TONH.
Gavin Pike July 11, 2012 at 06:14 PM
This is a step in the right direction by the Town and, if properly implimented, will go a long way to repairing the current lack of trust most homeowners now feel, when it comes to dealing with the builing department. There need to be clear definitions, consistently applied: for example, when is a basement a "finished" basement. When it has the walls and ceiling and floor 'covered', so that it can be used for storage. At what stage does there have to be a second exit, for a basement to be legal 'living' space? Logically, when there is a bedroom and bathroom for safety reasons, but just for storage, or as an office, surely not?
David sanders July 11, 2012 at 06:53 PM
How does anyone expect a different result ,when the same Inept ,idiots ,are running the same old asylum ,they like to call the "Building Department "?????
Dawn Andrew July 12, 2012 at 12:34 PM
Wonder if there will be an increased tax bill to the homeowner after all of the work is reported.
Joseph Mirzoeff July 12, 2012 at 12:40 PM
It is about time that homeowners on Long Island have a tax strike. Paying peoples salaries, benefits, and pensions for being obnoxious and unaccountable is ridiculous. All they understand is money. We need actions, because we the citizenry have become the targets of people who manipulate laws and elections -- and it is both political parties. I just read in AAA magazine about those traffic light cameras -- they raised $27 million for Nassau County last year. This is what the Nassau Legislature thinks serving the public is.


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