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Great Day for Pride In Port

Parade, football game and homecoming take over Port Washington Saturday.

Here's a quick look at Pride in Port, which included a Hall of Fame breakfast and a football game with Port Washington against St. Dominic High School, in which the Vikings won 24-9. Check back Monday for the full story. 

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Jenny September 29, 2012 at 11:28 PM
Is there any way we can get the band uniforms? This was once a band that went to the rose bowl and they are marching in golf shirts. the school past a budget for additional classes that no one is interested in. The arts are very important. Please let's have a fundraiser for these kids so they can be proud of being in the band.
fred September 29, 2012 at 11:37 PM
Sorry the next fundraiser is for the teachers pension fund. What do you think school is for the kids?
George Mulligan September 29, 2012 at 11:58 PM
You are absolutely correct. Things have certainly gone down hill since the 1990's. My older daughter was one of the the kids that marched in the Rose Bowl Parade. She was a Portette. Over one hundred children plus chaperones went on that trip, It was an experience she will never forget. I think they also performed at Disneyland. I would gladly contribute to a fundraiser to bring back band uniforms, But isn't it a shame that costs (salaries, health care, pension set asides etc.) have skyrocked so much that this expense can't come out of the operating budget.
Jenny September 30, 2012 at 12:23 AM
I'm willing to help those kids get new uniforms. I was so proud to be in that band. The portettes have new uniforms so should the band. What could we do? How much money do they need to buy new uniforms?
Stephan September 30, 2012 at 12:40 AM
I was in the band and those uniforms were horrible, I know that I absolutely hated wearing them, they were uncomfortable and the shoes were horribly white.
Joseph Mirzoeff September 30, 2012 at 10:35 AM
we have a terrific fundraiser every year -- it is called taxation. the collected funds have been misallocated as fred suggests by putting employees first. until parents stand up to the teachers union for the sake of their children we will continue to lose services. teacher compensation has gone up roughly 50% over the last decade or so, while private sector compensation has declined and public wealth has declined significantly.
Alan Gilbert September 30, 2012 at 01:41 PM
The tone of Fred's post suggests he feels that teachers, both active and retired, are being overly compensated. His use of grammer/punctuation is a good example of how the educational system has failed him. Given Fred's presumed frame of reference, I too might feel the same. This reminds me of a sign I saw in town prior to a school budget vote. It read "Defeet the School Budget". I frankly could never figure out if the anonomous poster was against or in favor of the budget. Isn't it about time we hired the "best and the brightest", and compensated them commenurate with their skills, similar to the approach that many of our financial institutions took in past years. This would also provide educators with the added security that their contracts would not be negotiated. Or is a contract only binding to the "best and brightest" in the non-union private sector? Just a thought!
Alan Gilbert September 30, 2012 at 01:50 PM
Mia Culpa - My prior post should have read renegotiated, and not negotiated.
Isabelle Lindberg September 30, 2012 at 02:23 PM
I was also a part of the Marching Band and a Portette in the late 80s and we had nice (but uncomfortable) uniforms. We attended the Cottonbowl Parade and game in Dallas TX. It was such a fun, crazy trip! I watch the band now in the parade and also feel a pit in my stomach....doesn't look as impressive at all. At least the Portettes now have more of a dance uniform (we looked like cheerleaders back then).
Michael Neil September 30, 2012 at 03:09 PM
My kids were both in the marching band. My daughter, who is older, had to wear the old uniforms, which were stiff, scratchy, and very uncomfortable. They might have originally been white, but were yellow with age. My son never had to wear them, and much preferred wearing the blue band polo shirt and khaki pants.
George Mulligan September 30, 2012 at 03:47 PM
It would be nice to see the band back in uniforms. There must be some materials made today that are more comfortable than the old uniforms.
Jo Beth Roberts September 30, 2012 at 04:01 PM
Teachers teach kids. Uniforms do not. Although I would like to have both.
Mike October 01, 2012 at 01:26 AM
Piggybacking off what Stephan said, I also wore the old uniforms and aside from being terribly uncomfortable they were also dangerous. When I was in the band, directly after the Memorial Day Parade half the band performed, in uniform, at the Sousa Bandshell (the other half played at Schreiber's graduation.). In 2007, two or three students fainted from heat exhausation during the bandshell performance (I'm absolutely positive at least two did. I can't remember if a third did or not though.). The big solution in 2008 was to provide everyone in the band with a mini-water bottle. Woo-Hoo. The only people who liked the uniforms by the end of their time, were apparently the Port citizens who didn't have to wear them. Upon returning home from college and going to the Memorial Day Parade one year I pulled one of the band conductors aside to say hello and wish him well, and he responded with "No uniforms, isn't it great?" The students couldn't wait to get them off, at least when I was in the band, consistently taking them off as soon as the performance was over, irregardless of where the students were. All my friends in the band with me have since expressed jealousy over the new band uniforms too. Everyone here seems to be excited about the thought of getting uniforms, but let's make sure the uniforms are actually tolerable for the kids in them. The old uniforms, which felt like they were made of wool, were absolutely horrendous for anyone who had to put them on by the end.
Port North Resident October 01, 2012 at 05:16 AM
Alan- You are way off base, Fred is right! Pension costs have skyrocketed since 2001. Nobody in the Private Sector has pensions anymore they now have 401k's. When the current pension system was set up in the 1930's government workers were paid much less than their private sector counterparts, and the benefits package they received was to level the playing field.Today, teachers in Port make over 100k and still receive a pension equaling between 50-75% of their last three years salary state tax free, and after 10 years they do not even contribute a dime. I agree with you that we should attract the "best and brightest" but at some point we must realize that any government employees (teachers included) are there to serve the public, and should not have a better deal than the people who pay the taxes for their salaries.
Jenny October 01, 2012 at 11:33 AM
I was in the band, I too wore the dinkles shoes for 4 years. I made all county. I loved wearing the uniforms, it made me proud. I was serious about my role in the band. The only ones who didn't like the uniforms were the kids who weren't serious about the band and who were only in it because there parents made them or they had to be in the band to fulfill the art credits recommended by the school. No one fainted while I was in the band. When I played at the band shell Mr. Byrne allowed us to take off our jackets and hats. The band looked more professional in the uniforms, not like a bunch of kids that work at staples. When I went to the parade with my fellow classmates this year they all were disgusted at the fact that band looked terrible. They didn't even march in clean lines. You don't see UCLA or Florida State marching in golf shirts and play in over 100 degree heat. This band has gone down hill. I guess people just don't care about quality and professionalism anymore.
fred October 01, 2012 at 12:04 PM
Come on Alan Gilbert you can do better than that. When you don't like the message you personally attack the messenger. My point is that to accommodate teachers contracts, students are getting the short end of the deal. I had asked the past president of the Wantagh school district what do teachers unions give up to students at contract time, the answer was basically nothing!!!!Our schools systems have become more of a jobs program than a learning institution Look no further than how the US ranks in the world!
Alan Gilbert October 01, 2012 at 12:18 PM
Port Washington Resident - Thank you for your thoughtful comments re: teachers' compensation. Your post suggests that a measure of compensation should be the total package (i.e. insurance, retirement, salary etc.). What quantitative measure should be the basis of whether one is under or over compensated? To the best of my knowledge teachers pay taxes on their salaries which in turn contributes to their compensation. You comment that "Nobody in the private sector has pensions anymore they now have 401k's". I know of many people that do not have 401ks, as you suggest, in fact I know many people that have no employer funded retirement plans, this author included. However, I do not believe this should be the litmus test in assessing the equitability of someone elses compensation. And in closing, I do not believe serving the public in some way, should be limited to "government employees". I would hope that anyone who is fortunate to have a job, includes in their activities serving the public in some way. Perhaps by paying taxes.
Alan Gilbert October 01, 2012 at 01:39 PM
Fred - Should clarification be necessary, it has been my observation that we form opinions based on our past frame of reference which includes our environment, inter-personal interaction, and our education, both formal and by way of life experiences. Given my read of the statements in the above post, it would seem approprite to delete the word "presumed" in my original post. You cite "...the past president of the Wantagh school district..." in support of your position.I wonder if he/she is an objective party to this question, or a "member of the choir". Are you really suggesting that the US's world ranking in education is due to the "jobs program" teachers? If affirmative, and the solution to the problem were that simplistic, perhaps creating an environment which attracts the "best and brightest" might go a long way at ameliorating your ranking concerns. Having read my original post several times, and find no statement which categorically states I believe teachers are properly or under compensated. However, I do believe we need a system that attracts the "best and brightest", which may or may not involve increased compensation. To be continued
Alan Gilbert October 01, 2012 at 01:41 PM
Fred Part II: It is my opinion that the US ranking is more complicated. In discussions with educators and non-educators the perception of teachers as respected individuals has been seriously eroded. Many of these educators are becoming increasingly reluctant to discuss their choice of vocation. And many of the non-educators have spoken disparagingly about public educators. Perhaps if we treated our educators in a more dignified way, they would feel prouder about their choice of profession. I see no monetary cost associated with this, and for those educators who may have become disallusioned it might renew their commitment to the profession. I would opine this would make the profession more attractive to the "best and brightest". A no cost win-win!
fred October 01, 2012 at 01:58 PM
Alan, I just don't understand why you start off with a derogatory personal comment.You seem more educated than that! I agree we need the best and brightest teachers but unfortunately their union doesn't . I see parallels between the 1970s auto makers and the school systems today. In the 70s all the union talked about was wages and benefits but never quality of the products they built. We know what happened to them! Very similar with the teachers union today. Wages and benefits are all that are discussed but not ways to improve education. As for the Wantagh board member he writes all the time on the Patch and I have never met him. Lastly I would gladly increase teachers salaries dramatically, to attract those best and brightest, but I would expect substantially more from them. Today that want more for the same they did last year!
Rachel October 01, 2012 at 04:36 PM
Despite the band uniform controversy wasn't Pride in Port such a great morning! I am proud to live in this town.
BeachGal October 01, 2012 at 07:41 PM
As an aluma of the band I too am disapointed in the lack of band uniforms. When I was a Schreiber student and a member of the band we were often reminded of the long history of the Schreiber Band. How they were often the best band in the state. The band was a source of pride and accomplishment for the school district. If the sports teams are given new and up to date uniforms the band should be as well. After all band is actually a class in school, and those credits count twords your diploma! Part of your education is learning appropriate ways of behaving and dressing in situations. The Mock Trial team dresses in suits, the track team in shorts and cleats, so why does the Schreiber Band look like the staff of Best Buy? It is not appropriate. Also what ever happened to the Annual Band Concert? The band gave an annual concert every spring. I participated in the 50th Annual Concert where alumni came back and played with the band. I remember thinking how great it would be to come back in 2005 for the 75th annual concert as an alumni - but the concerts were discontinued. Another Schreiber tradition down the tubes. It is very sad to see.
George Mulligan October 01, 2012 at 10:31 PM
I enjoyed reading all the comments from former band members. You have such fond memories. While the uniforms were uncomfortable, you all cherished the experience of playing in the Port Washington High School band. I always thought the Schreiber band, Portettes, cheerleaders etc. were the highlight of the Memorial Day and Pride in Port parades. Lets get them some comfortable uniforms and get the band back on the high plane. I look forward to seeing our high school band performing on the national stage once again. The next stop should be a bowl game parade or maybe a spot in the Macy's parade on Thanksgiving.
Michael Neil October 02, 2012 at 03:43 PM
What's gone unsaid is how great the musicians sounded. It's wonderful to see such talent. Kudos to them, and their music teachers. The kids looked happy to be there and make great music.

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